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La FAA as approuvé 611 Moteurs pour l’utilisation du carbu-

Messagepar VMF-214 » Dim 25 Fév, 2024 16:32

rant ''G100UL'' (GAMI Unleaded Fuel)!

Site Internet: pour la liste des ''Moteur approuvez'' pour le carburant ''sans plomb GAMI (GAMI Unleaded Fuel)'' : https://download.aopa.org/advocacy/2021 ... 1635646891

Article en ''Anglais'':

FAA Approves 611 Engines For GAMI Unleaded Fuel.

Site Internet: https://www.avweb.com/aviation-news/faa ... aded-fuel/

FAA Approves 600 Engines For GAMI Unleaded Fuel.

By: Russ Niles, - Published: October 31, 2021
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The FAA has approved an additional 611 certified piston aircraft engines to run on GAMI’s G100UL high octane unleaded avgas in an FAA-approved model list that was posted on Thursday. With the announcement, about 70 percent of existing engines in service are now able to use the fuel, which received FAA approval itself in July. “This is a very bullish sign that the FAA is continuing to honor their commitment to move unleaded avgas forward as fast as possible,” AOPA fuel consultant Paul Millner said in a story published on the organization’s website. Another approved list in which those engines are mated to approved airframes will be coming soon.

The approved list covers most lower-powered engines by Lycoming, up to 360-cubic-inch displacement (CID), and Continental up to 470 CID plus many Franklins. The list also includes dozens of radial engines by Pratt & Whitney and Curtiss-Wright up to some of the largest models. Engines not on the list include the high-powered six-cylinder Continental and Lycoming mills that power most of the commercial piston fleet. Although they account for about 30 percent of in-service engines, they burn more than 80 percent of the avgas sold in the U.S. AOPA says GAMI CEO George Braly is expecting the big engines to be approved in 2022. GAMI is working with Avfuel to distribute the fuel and is concentrating in areas where 100LL sales are being phased out.

Russ Niles
http://www.avweb.com
Russ Niles is Editor-in-Chief of AVweb. He has been a pilot for 30 years and joined AVweb 22 years ago. He and his wife Marni live in southern British Columbia where they also operate a small winery.

12 COMMENTS

1. Jeffry S November 1, 2021 At 8:30 am

Rotax 912, please!

o Richard Phillips November 1, 2021 At 9:26 am

Those will already burn any swill, won’t they?

At least the modern ones come approved for UL mogas.

 Jeffry S November 2, 2021 At 9:36 am

UL/ULS, sure, as far as Rotax is concerned, though the ULS requires higher octane than UL. Certificated versions 912A, F, or S depend on the airframe type certificate. In the EASA to FAA conversion, most didn’t take chances with out ethanol-laced winter/summer variant car gas and specified 100LL on their FAA type certificates. So, AFIK, legally stuck unless an STC or blanket approval is granted.

2. Mike R November 1, 2021 At 9:02 am

Anyone else notice the Lycoming o-235 is not on the list??

3. Thomas Turner November 1, 2021 At 9:16 am

This is another big step toward addressing the real market, those engines (and airframes) that require 100 octane fuel for protection and performance. Any word on when STCs for airframes containing these engines will be issued, so these new engine STCs will be usable when G100LL is available?

o Richard Phillips November 1, 2021 At 9:28 am

I’m disappointed that they don’t just give blanket approval not for the plane, but as an approved fuel where 100LL or whatever was approved in the past.

 Keith Sketchley November 1, 2021 At 10:50 am

George Braly chose to go the STC route as simpler and quicker, though FAA was slow on that.
IIRC he was not on FAA’s short list for its testing program, so he pressed on with the STC route.

George has an engine test bed in his facility, among his products are turbochargers to maintain power to high altitude.

(An Administrator convinced him to go the STC route for his matched sets of flow-tested injector nozzles, but they are a physical part with easy distribution whereas fuel is a huge distribution challenge.

The relatively new Approved Model List or such approach to STC publication helped some I suppose.)

I’d listen to Braly straight, not via Millner.

https://www.avfuel.com/Details-Page/Art ... ved-by-FAA
https://www.avfuel.com/Details-Page/Art ... 99s-G100UL

4. Keith Sketchley November 1, 2021 At 10:59 am

Note GAMI’s mention of developing better methods of measuring detonation.
‘Octane’ is rather variable, I learn from attempting to understand what fuels might be useable in aircraft that originally used something like 130 or 145 octane fuel (big roundies like the Wright Turbo-Compound).

Beware that some people’s claim of compatibility of high power engines with certain octane levels _assumes_ operating at reduced power. That’s misleading.

(Might help get an airplane home from somewhere.)

Not a good idea for aircraft like the Martin Mars forest fire suppression seaplane IMO. In the old days when fighting fires in the interior of BC the Mars would fly home to Sproat Lake on Vancouver Island to refuel and get maintenance checks. (It has ample tank capacity though that is weight at the start of the fighting day.) For missions further out its own tank truck was needed.

o John Mc November 1, 2021 At 1:47 pm

I thought that they had retired all the Mars fire planes.

 Keith Sketchley November 1, 2021 At 6:27 pm

The upgraded Mars flew to save an observatory in California, in September of 2020.
Big problem is political/cronyism, phony claims by the almost monopoly customer in BC that it is not suitable. BC once again failed to use all available air and ground resources while settlements burned up.

Whereas USFS had three 10Tankers on contract last summer, and various federal, state, and country wildfire agencies have other airplanes and heavy helos (some form Coulson, including a rapid reaction force in Orange and Ventura counties).

The Mars is a big dump which quenches raging fires so reduces spread of fire by embers. Or can spread a fire line quickly by salvoing doors (dropping water, foamed water, or gelled water but not ‘retardant” the stuff usually coloured red). Only 10Tanker is a larger dump in North America, newer airliner based tankers and Coulson’s C-130s carry 4000 USG or less whereas the Mars carries 7200 USG. (The 747 is not active now.)
You could buy a Mars.

(Coulson had a deal to trade one with a navy museum in FL for parts for C-130s, arms trade and other gummint interference blocked that. Yes, the Mars is a military airplane and C-130 parts are arms, never mind both countries have civilian C-130s. AFAIK it sits in the background on the beach at Sproat Lake, painted original USN blue.)

 William November 2, 2021 At 2:07 pm

Love that plane. I saw one in Tillamook, Oregon some time ago. IIRC one also in Pima air museum in AZ.

5. Pete Lehmann November 2, 2021 At 12:34 pm

Dear GAMI:

I’ve got a TON of love for you guys, but you’re skating on thin ice, my friend. Some of those engine models listed on that AML are installed in what, 15 aircraft maybe. Who ever is working on all the iterations of the Lycoming O-235s and missed the deadline to submit the engineering data to be included on this round of approvals, they don’t get paid until that engine is on that list. Want to eat? Get it done.
Seriously, I feel like you were more concerned that the aircraft at Old Rhinebeck then you were with the thousands of O-235s scattered about. Who is in charge of racking and stacking the priority list over there!??!

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